“Katy Payne: In the Presence of Elephants and Whales”

Katy Payne is a renowned acoustic biologist with a Quaker sensibility. She’s found her astonishmentand many life lessonsin listening to two of the world’s largest creatures. From the wild coast of Argentina to the rainforests of Africa, she discovered that humpback whales compose ever-changing songs and that elephants communicate across long distances by infrasound. In this interview with Krista Tippett, Payne shares her story and insights on elephant and whale communication.