“Apes & The Nature of Empathy | Dr Frans de Waal”

In this episode, the LOAF hosts are joined by Frans de Waal, a renowned primatologist and ethologist. de Waal is known for his groundbreaking research on the behavior and social intelligence of primates, particularly chimpanzees and bonobos. His work has significantly contributed to our understanding of empathy, morality, and social behavior in animals, challenging long-held beliefs about human uniqueness. Is human nature good or bad? Throughout their discussion, de Waal shares profound insights on the nature of empathy in animals, providing compelling examples of inherent morality and cooperation among species.